Karma Unveiled

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And it's probably not what you think

Carlos Duran:

Podcasting live from the lush jungles of Costa Rica this is Vibration Rising radio with your host, Adi Shakti and Carlos Duran. Adi Shakti, how are you?

Adi Shakti:

I'm so good, Carlos. It's been a long time.

Carlos Duran:

Isn't that the elephant in the room?  Why have we been away for such a long time.

Adi Shakti:

Been working, growing the company, getting out in the world and learning, and sharing, and recruiting, and all kinds of exciting things.

Carlos Duran:

That's actually very true. I've worked very hard on my surfing in our sabbatical, and I have not gotten any better at it, but I'm glad I had the time to do it. No, that's not true. We've been traveling around the world. You went to Africa.

Adi Shakti:

I did, yeah it was wonderful, Kenya.

Carlos Duran:

I took a five week training in the Amazons of Colombia. What else have we been doing?

Adi Shakti:

Just groups. I've got my personal transformation intensives here in Costa Rica, and I'm on my sixth one right now, wonderful group of 28 people diving in. Just been focusing on personal transformation.

Carlos Duran:

That's beautiful, Adi. Today's topic is pretty interesting. What is it?

Adi Shakti:

We're going to talk about karma today?

Carlos Duran:

Is karma a bitch?

Adi Shakti:

It can be.

Carlos Duran:

According to the Hindi tradition, or the Yogic path, which is your path, what is karma and how does it work?

Adi Shakti:

Karma, I think in the west maybe it's a little bit confused from the roots than when we're talking about the yoga tradition. But we really learn about karma in the Bhagavad Gita, is the primary text where we dive in to what it means. I think that the common idea of karma is that you do good things and good things come back to you or you do bad things and bad things come back to you. But it's actually a little bit different than that in our tradition.

In the yoga tradition, karma is accumulated action, and it's action that's been performed outside of the truth. The truth is that we are all connected, that we are all one. When we steal, when we lie, when we dishonor, when we are performing actions that are outside of alignment with divine will and that truth, then we accumulate what you could call consequences or there's ripples. Those types of experiences will show up later in our lives for opportunities for us to move through them and burn them.

The work in the yoga practice is actually to burn through the karma. You're not doing things to get good karma back to you, you're actually just trying to eliminate and move away from any action outside of the scope of divine will so that you can fine tune your practice and melt into these higher levels of consciousness and eventually ideally find enlightenment. That's kind of the concept, in a nutshell, in the yoga tradition.

Carlos Duran:

That's pretty interesting. The way that the ayahuasca path teaches karma is considered ... It's a word you used before, it's considered roots. The teaching is that, from our ancestors all the way to the point of genesis, each single being comes with a story. This story is connected to our ancestors. These collective stories create a root. This root goes back to the Tree of Life.

Karma, in our culture, is a disconnection in the roots. Something happened, a decision was made, an action was taken, that was not in alignment with that root, with that root's connection to the Tree of Life and that causes a disconnection. The way that we resolve that disconnection is by dealing with what we're calling karma.

In other words, you have to make a payment, a contribution of balance, sort of speaking. I think that ties into what you're saying about burning karma, because I'm about to ask you how do you burn karma and I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts it's going to be something along the lines of taking what you're doing now and putting it in alignment with truth. Is that more or less-

Adi Shakti:

Yes, absolutely. It's beautiful when we're talking about the ancestry, you talked about that, and we have the concept of karma within the tradition that I follow as well. It's very very similar. It's the belief and the truth that we are the manifestation of our mothers, that we are the manifestation of our grandmothers. When we're talking about a woman's eggs, she actually produces all of them in utero. My grandmother's womb held my mother and my mother developed her eggs as well, in utero. The concept is that I actually was in the womb of my grandmother.

Carlos Duran:

But this isn't so much as a concept as a scientific fact.

Adi Shakti:

But the concept here is that we are the flesh and blood of our ancestors, that within the DNA that there's this transference of information from one generation to the next and that, me as a person, I'm holding the karma or the physical manifestation, the emotional information, whatever it is that my ancestors have yet to heal and work through and realign with. That I am the physical manifestation, it's my work not only to heal myself for the sake of my children and the generations forward, but also I'm healing back.

Carlos Duran:

According to the teachings that we have now, it's said that we're living in a time of ancestral karma. Meaning that today's moment is a moment when the individual is not just burning, or dealing or facing their personal karma, but they are actually also working to heal their ancestral karma, to heal that disconnection from the light or that separation from the truth that our ancestors experienced.

I think it's something akin to when The Bible says that the sins of the father will be visited upon the children and the children's children and the children's children. I think now what we have is the opportunity of healing from the father's sickness being visited upon the children and the children's children. Right now we're facing a moment in cosmic alignment, in terrestrial existence, where we not only have the opportunity to elevate ourself as an individual, we have the opportunity to heal and elevate our collective family dating back to the very beginning of whatever that genesis is.

Adi Shakti:

Then we have another layer of that as well, which is the energy of the past lives. As a human, the idea is that we actually have the physical ancestry, but we also have this concept of reincarnation where you can be dealing simultaneously with a physical history, that maybe you have access to information about or maybe you don't, but you can kind of understand some of the implications of that. Then as we become wiser and move through these layers of consciousness, we can get access, more and more access into our past lives. That starts to play a role in this conversation as well.

Carlos Duran:

Right, because many times we think of our ancestors but what we fail to realize is that we are part of that ancestor. At some point in time, my soul was my great-grandmother, or my great-aunt, or my great-uncle. I was that same soul coming back now, replaying again and again in the lineage of our families in the story.

I wanted to ask you something because you made an interesting point. You said that kara is not necessarily doing bad or good to speak in terms of duality, but it's a burning process where we're burning away the lie or the disconnection and then return to source or return to truth. Would that mean that you do nothing? I mean, do you just sit there and meditate all day? What is your understanding of burning through that karma.

Adi Shakti:

There's different paths, and this is something else that we get into in the Bhagavad Gita, but it's said that the most noble path is the path of karma, or the path of action. We have the path of the renunciate, where you escape to the Himalayas and meditate and have that process. But it's actually said to be ... The most advanced practice is to be of the world and to work through these things. As you're burning through this, the idea is that you recognize and you awaken to the truth that we are all of the same essence, that we are all, at the most core level, pure consciousness. If I recognize, Carlos, that you and I are the same, then I then recognize that stealing from you I'm just stealing from myself.

Carlos Duran:

What's in your best interest is in my best interest.

Adi Shakti:

Absolutely, absolutely. It's this process of aligning my life with that truth. It's interesting because there's a piece in the Bhagavad Gita that I'm understanding more and more as I advance on the spiritual path, but it's this concept of the fire. If you think of your karma, or whatever it is that you're meant to burn through in this life, as logs and you catch fire to those logs and you have a roaring fire and you're doing your spiritual work, there is still smoke, there is still impurity in that work.

Carlos Duran:

There's the intensity of the heat itself.

Adi Shakti:

Right, there's the intensity of the heat, but then there's also ... There's smoke with that. You're burning, and there's this fire and there's this transformation but it doesn't ... It's not perfect. There's other things that may be confusing. For example, say you are in a relationship ... This is something that comes up a lot with my students, and maybe they're in a relationship and they care a lot about the person, but they maybe come to the recognition that this partnership isn't what's serving their highest good. It's a complicated decision, because you don't want to hurt the other person, but you also need to honor yourself.

It's this process of trusting in and realizing that even though a situation may look messy, that that's okay. Does that make sense? So that as we're burning through things, or as we're following our path, that it's not always black and white, like this is very very obviously the thing that I'm supposed to do and there's not other repercussions for that. It's another kind of subtle piece of the story around karma that is very interesting to me now especially.

Carlos Duran:

I think what happens in the western world, we are socially programmed to look at aesthetics in a certain way. In order for something to be good, it has to be clean. Everything has a place, a box where it goes into or a title that it goes under, and I don't think that's realistic. I think, for example, like the teachings of tantra, where we should seek to find divine sweetness even in the flesh of a rotting corpse. I think this is what you're saying, that when we're working to burn off our karma, it's not going to always be beautiful and oh my god, I'm doing all this great work, why is everything chaotic around me? Well, it's the smoke. It's the burn off, and it's part of the resettling.

I think a lot of times we get lost in translation and we think that just because we're doing something spiritual everything has to go right. Everything is going right, even though it may feel chaotic, because the universe is stripping away what no longer serves you. You're burning away those old, rotten foundations that you've been based on, so there is a certain crumbling, or there is a certain chaos. There is a certain rotting flesh. But, from that process, we need to truth that purity and divine essence will manifest.

Adi Shakti:

Right, and the perspective ... We have the human perspective. I mean, as we get wiser we're able to have a more accurate and clear understanding of what's actually going on. But in the human experience, we're stuck in our human experience, so to understand and to have the faith to understand that there is some sort of divine reason, or some divine mapping that is beyond what we're understanding now for the trajectory of our life is powerful.

Namaste, this is Adi Shakti, and I just wanted to take this opportunity to invite you down to Costa Rica to partake in one of our personal transformation intensives here on the Caribbean coast. You can head over to PassionYogaSchool.com to learn more about our upcoming intensive trainings here in the jungle. Thank you so much, and I look forward to seeing you here in the jungle soon. Namaste.

Carlos Duran:

Adi, so the idea of karma and burning through karma and doing the spiritual work sounds very beautiful, but I also think that we need to bring awareness that daily actions and daily choices do cause, create consequences. There is a boomerang effect in our life. I think something that I know I've had a hard time struggling with, I certainly noticed how my poor decisions create almost immediate consequences, certainly in my life. I know I've seen some real assholes out there that I think to myself how are they getting away with this, but that's a bigger karmic mountain that they will face down the road.

But I've also noticed in my life that it takes a longer cycle for positive actions to come back. But what I have noticed is that, in this longer cycle, an intensity builds up. In other words, it comes back multiplied. In that multiplication of things that come back to me, I want to take a moment and discuss business and business karma. Before I get into it, I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.

Adi Shakti:

Again, back to the Bahgavad Gita, the teachings of the Bahgavad Gita. It's extremely important that as practitioners, spiritual warriors, conscious entrepreneurs, whatever it is, that we're doing the work for the work's sake. I believe that what you're saying, that all of this ... It does come back, and as we pour good things into the world, inevitably of course we see that coming back. But one of the primary teachings is a detachment from the fruit of the labor, that the labor itself is the devotion to the divine, the labor itself is the devotion to great spirit, God, whatever you want to call it.

Carlos Duran:

The labor itself is the reward.

Adi Shakti:

Yes, exactly, so that's the process. Especially as an entrepreneur, you're not seeing energy coming back to you in a very ... We're talking dollars and cents. It can take a lot of work and a lot of time before you're seeing that cycle back. But if you are in your soul's work and you're spending your days doing what you really believe that you're meant to be doing, and you're doing the work for work's sake, and you try your best to surrender and to detach from that outcome, those are the teachings of the Bahgavad Gita, that that is going to lead to deeper states of contentment and higher states of consciousness.

Carlos Duran:

What I want to say about this is that, first of all, to understand that there's something called dharma. Dharma, like you're saying, is your life purpose. I think the first thing when you're dealing with business ... Because many of us take so personal what we do professionally, I think the first step in dealing with your business karma is that you have to be in alignment with your dharma. You have to be working in where your soul feels that this is the place, your soul is guiding you, this is the line of work that you should be doing. I think that's the first step in business karma. I think then the next step in business karma is what you said, you do the work for the sake of the work because this is what your soul wants to be doing. According to the teachings of Kabbalah, it's a gift to have a physical body in which to work through your karma because there's no other way to do it. According to Kabbalistic teachings, your terrestrial karma is accumulated in a body, so in order to balance it it also requires a body. When you have alignment with your purpose, when you practice no-attachment, you do the work because it's a gift and it's an opportunity, then I think that the next thing to look at is the choices that you're making. A lot of people, I find when I deal with clients, they will separate their personal life from their business life. That, to me, is a huge mistake because we only breathe one breath. Whether I'm wearing my hat of father, or my hat of podcaster, or my hat of entrepreneur, or my hat of therapist, I'm still breathing only one breath and the actions that I take have impact across the full spectrum of my person. I think it's very important that we understand that if you're making a decision in business and you think to yourself well, it's for profit and my business is for profit, and profit just means dollars and cents, you are missing a big part. Because the real profit of any action in this world is profit for the soul. I think the treasures of the soul should come before ... That should be the priority of scale, where you first are looking at this, what is the soul impact of this decision. If I'm going to buy this land for development, with what consciousness am I going to do it? Am I going to do it in a sustainable fashion, or in a fashion that's only profit driven? Not that profits in dollars and cents is wrong, because it's not, but it's secondary to the kind of profit or loss that you're going to produce for yourself spiritually. I think that, as human beings, no matter how successful we are in business, if we truly want to achieve a karmic balance we must look at our whole life as a single unit and recognize that the decision that I make here will effect me over there.

Adi Shakti:

Yeah, absolutely. I think that part of my dharma now that I am awakening to and has become very clear is this path of reshaping how it is that we talk about the economy. We live in a world now where everyone is very very aware that the money is what is controlling the politicians and the politicians are the ones that are making these grander scale decisions, in the matrix anyway, and I know a lot of our listeners are in that space. The reality of what's happening now in this grassroots, dharma-based, soul-based entrepreneurship direction is that we recognize that money is a tool for impact. That we aren't actually voting on November 8th, we're voting every day for the types of businesses and things that we want to continue to manifest. As conscious entrepreneurs, and as we develop and have the courage to move forward with our life's work and cultivate the skills and the ability to increase our impact and to do whatever it is that we're called to do, and are able to vote for each other as freelancers, or vote for each other as small businesses and begin to kind of reshape what the economy looks like, I do think that it's also valuable for people that are doing the soul work that are good, kind, loving, hardworking people determined to make the world a better place aren't then ashamed to turn away from money. Because money is a tool for impact, and money itself is not evil. It's the people or the corporations, or however you want to label it, that have gotten a hold of the resources that have then moved towards exploiting them. Where if good people can get a hold of the land that are committed to taking good care of it, if good people can get a hold of the resources and are then committed to creating a more loving and sustainable world, then that's the direction that we want to move in. What I see are healers and yoga teachers and people that are passionate about permaculture or whatever it is, they shut down this opportunity to grow their businesses or to grow their impact. Then we're kind of left in this world where the resources are still in the hands of the people that maybe don't have the best intentions, or aren't on this dharmic path of healing the earth and healing themselves. I think it's important that we start to talk about the economy in that way, and what it means to be a conscious entrepreneur, what it means to be a spiritual entrepreneur and for people to move towards educating themselves with the skills that they need to really step fully into whatever it is they're meant to do in this life.

Carlos Duran:

I think that's a great point when we talk about the evils of money, because I'm certainly one that has ... I feel that I have doven ... Dived, doven, deep?

Adi Shakti:

Sure yeah, I'm with you.

Carlos Duran:

A deep dive into the world of money. I openly admit, I have drunk deeply from the cup of gluttony and found it to be lacking and very distasteful, but I drank nonetheless. Money is very curious because the great teacher, [Jashur Benjasef 00:22:42], was quoted in the Christian Bible as saying that the root of all evil is the love of money. I think that what we're looking at with money and karma is perspective, because those dollars and coins that we have in our pocket could easily be buttons and wooden blocks. It's a trading mechanism. We have allowed it to become more than that. We have allowed money to become a dictator of resources. We have allowed it to become a definer of life. What have you achieved is often determined by the money value attached to your achievements. Did you make it, are you successful? To me, it's funny because anything could be money. For example, if you look at what money is in the physical sense, it's a canvas with ink on it, so it can be perceived as artwork. No matter how crisp your hundred dollar bill is, if you go into an art gallery it's only worth a hundred dollars technically, because if you actually start calculating economics and devaluation it's probably worth about two cents. But that hundred dollar bill is never going to be considered a grand piece of art. It's mass-produced, anybody can get one, so it doesn't have a unique value. The only uniqueness to money is social perspective. I think that, in complete alignment with what you said, if we want to heal the karmic wounds that money has created in society, in the human psyche, we must reshape, or redefine, our relationship with money. Why shouldn't I have a hundred billion dollars? I guarantee you I will do a better job with a hundred billion dollars than Bill Gates or Warren Buffett, or name your favorite CEO. I will do a better job with it, because I would put those resources, those buttons and wooden blocks, to work for the benefit of humanity.

Adi Shakti:

Well, and I will say too that I currently am searching for grants and funding for different things that I'm doing, nonprofit and otherwise, and I will say that both Warren Buffett and Bill Gates have both been ... There's lots of generous opportunities that they put out for people in the world, so I just want to say that.

Carlos Duran:

I'll also say that they put out a lot of horrible things with humanity. I am not a Bill Gates or Warren Buffett fan by no means. I believe that they work within the construct of the elite for the destruction and enslavement for the masses. But, that being said, should you apply for a Warren Buffett or Bill Gates grant? Absolutely, because you're going to do a better job, a more socially-conscious job with that money than someone else would. That's a transmutation of the karma ...

In other words, the biggest narco in the world can come to me and say, "Carlos, I need to get rid of half a billion dollars. Would you be willing to take it off my hands?" Absolutely. I understand that it's blood money, I understand that it's drug money. But I also understand that by taking that money and stripping it ... The birds agree with me ... And stripping it of all that energy and transmutating it into social good, transmutating it into resources that can be used to empower, to amplify progression, to amplify healing, I would do it. Just like you would take a grant from any institution, even if it was General Electric, even if it was Coca Cola. You would still take that grant money and apply it towards the benefit of humanity, towards the benefit of others. That, to me, is a karmic transmutation of the money.

Good day Vibration Rising Radio listeners. This is Carlos Duran here, just wanted to let you know about a project we have bringing indigenous art from the Colombian Amazon out into the first world. If you'd like to check out the pieces or learn more about how the project works and it supports local tribes in Colombia, please go to [Facebook.com/PintasDeJaguar 00:27:24] or just scroll down and follow the link in the show notes. Thank you so much, and have a blessed day.

Adi Shakti:

I was thinking about something this last week, and I am in the process now ... I have what I call The Empowered Goddess, it's a six day modern business seminar for the awakened woman. It's a place where I'm educating healers and people with good hearts, good intentions that are working to expand their impact. I'm educating them on strategies to actually grow their businesses. Here in the last couple of years, I mean I've been able to break six figures in my business just in a couple of years. I'm living simply, I'm living sustainably. I travel like a crazy person, but I also am hiring beautiful-hearted people that are here helping me with the work that I'm doing here in the jungle. I'm giving back to the community, all of these types of things that I'm able to do because I've educated myself on online marketing, all of these different things.

In my advertising and putting this out there and trying to help other women, most specifically, educate and empower themselves, I've been getting a lot of hatred, a lot of people giving me all kinds of different comments and things about how what I'm doing is unethical. I get in these places where I'm arguing with these people that I've never know, met, or ever will in my head. This idea came to me that I thought was kind of interesting, something that I've never really thought about before.

But when we're talking about the patriarchy and we're talking about something as simple as getting a mortgage for example, in order for you, as a person that's making a standard wage ... Say if you're a yoga teacher, I mean standard wage for a yoga teacher throughout the course of a year is probably like $25,000. For you to get a home for your family, you basically have to go to Daddy Warbucks and throw yourself at their feet and beg and hope that you are able to check off these boxes and that you are worthy of a home.

Which is horrific, because I've been in a place now in the United States where I have thought about buying and have talked to some mortgage brokers, and this is the reality, that we are, in general as the general middle class public, aren't even entitled or aren't granted enough resources to actually be able to even take up a little bit of space. I've been very blessed this year to be able to buy some land here in Costa Rica. We're moving, we'll be living in a conscious community, shared gardens, organic of course, container living, all that kind of stuff, and really trying to move forward in a way that is sustainable and in line. I don't want to have to do it in debt.

It's so interesting that as I throw these ideas out there of using what you're passionate about, using your soul work as a tool for actually being able to create the life that you want financially and otherwise, and being demonized for that. But I understand what they're projecting. I understand what they're seeing, and it's that we should just do it because we have good hearts. But the fact is that if I didn't receive a fair income for what it is that i pour my entire soul into, then I wouldn't be able to do that. I'd be in some law office probably, working for some miserable person and protecting corporations or whatever it is that I would've done with my degree.

I just think it's interesting that as we start to kind of understand money, look at our money wounds, look at why it is that we're resistant to that versus what it is that we could do if we were actually in a position where we were able to offer opportunities to other soulful people looking to make the world a better place. When we start to examine those types of questions ...

Bringing this back into karma and our dharma, our life work, what it is that we're supposed to be doing, there is no reason that you and we, as a human race, shouldn't be able to claim our space and claim what it is that we need to survive and to collaborate and to heal the planet. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do that. How the world is organized now, you need money to be able to do that.

Just kind of something that I've been working with lately, of really trying to get people to really question their money wounds, question their money view, and before they're judging or making these assumptions about what other women are doing, to really have the courage to start to really look at what's going on in the patriarchy and how it is that we're supposed to think and feel about money.